Comments on: Fansubs and what the R1 industry needs to do http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/ Mainichi Anime Yume Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:16:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: snaphappyfma http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-62411 snaphappyfma Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:26:04 +0000 http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-62411 I agree with Yumeka. I have purchased all of the Saiyuki and Saiyuki Reload manga (to date; volumes are still coming out). I would not have done so, if I hadn't been a Saiyuki fan. And I wouldn't have become a Saiyuki fan, if I hadn't been able to watch the anime through fansubs. I have also purchased all of the official soundtrack CDs for the Fullmetal Alchemist series, as well as the official soundtrack CD for the Conquerer of Shamballa movie (NOT cheap; it's a single two-CD set and cost me around $28). And... I wouldn't have become a Fullmetal Alchemist fan, if I hadn't watched some of it on the Cartoon Network and also some fansubs of it. The U.S. industry and the original Japanese licensors need to find out some way, as Yumeka discusses, to deliver subbed anime eps to non-Japanese fans more quickly, and in some way that we can/will pay for it. I for one wouldn't mind a Netflix-type arrangement, in which I would pay a set monthly fee in return for renting DVDs/being able to watch immediate downloads of NEW anime eps from Japan. There are a lot of smart people both here and in Japan, and I'm sure something will get worked out, to the benefit of the industry both here and in Japan, and for the fans. I agree with Yumeka.

I have purchased all of the Saiyuki and Saiyuki Reload manga (to date; volumes are still coming out). I would not have done so, if I hadn’t been a Saiyuki fan. And I wouldn’t have become a Saiyuki fan, if I hadn’t been able to watch the anime through fansubs. I have also purchased all of the official soundtrack CDs for the Fullmetal Alchemist series, as well as the official soundtrack CD for the Conquerer of Shamballa movie (NOT cheap; it’s a single two-CD set and cost me around $28). And… I wouldn’t have become a Fullmetal Alchemist fan, if I hadn’t watched some of it on the Cartoon Network and also some fansubs of it.

The U.S. industry and the original Japanese licensors need to find out some way, as Yumeka discusses, to deliver subbed anime eps to non-Japanese fans more quickly, and in some way that we can/will pay for it. I for one wouldn’t mind a Netflix-type arrangement, in which I would pay a set monthly fee in return for renting DVDs/being able to watch immediate downloads of NEW anime eps from Japan.

There are a lot of smart people both here and in Japan, and I’m sure something will get worked out, to the benefit of the industry both here and in Japan, and for the fans.

]]> By: Evan Minto (Vampt Vo) http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-61887 Evan Minto (Vampt Vo) Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:19:11 +0000 http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-61887 Those are some good suggestions, Yumeka, but the previous poster is correct. You can't expect the anime companies to come begging at the fans' doorsteps with special deals and streaming video services, because that's not the way the business works. Yes, anime companies will be working to combat fansubs, but a business can never be allowed to meet thieves with simple persuasion. They need to actually eliminate fansubs, not just "phase them out." This problem needs a two-sided solution. Anime companies need to formulate new ways of selling anime (already happening if you visit your nearest Best Buy), and fans need to stand up against fansubs. There is one more problem with your argument. TV and fansubs are vastly different from each other when it comes to the "taste test." When you watch a show on TV, you are increasing its ratings, thereby showing the station that there are people interested in the show. Through that, they might end up airing more anime on TV. Your viewership is essentially a vote. When you watch fansubs because there aren't shows enough shows on TV, you are telling the stations that you're not interested in anime on TV. If you're telling them that you don't want anime on TV, WHY IN THE WORLD would they add new shows? See what I mean? Fans seem to expect everybody to read their minds. "I want more anime on TV, so why isn't there any?" Because you don't WATCH the anime that is on TV. "I want more free streaming videos on CrunchyRoll and YouTube." Then why are you watching Strike Witches FANSUBBED? "Why aren't anime DVDs as cheap as American DVDs?" Because you're not BUYING them! It's a painful, endless cycle that can only be fixed through education from the fans and active change from the companies. Those are some good suggestions, Yumeka, but the previous poster is correct. You can’t expect the anime companies to come begging at the fans’ doorsteps with special deals and streaming video services, because that’s not the way the business works. Yes, anime companies will be working to combat fansubs, but a business can never be allowed to meet thieves with simple persuasion. They need to actually eliminate fansubs, not just “phase them out.” This problem needs a two-sided solution. Anime companies need to formulate new ways of selling anime (already happening if you visit your nearest Best Buy), and fans need to stand up against fansubs.

There is one more problem with your argument. TV and fansubs are vastly different from each other when it comes to the “taste test.” When you watch a show on TV, you are increasing its ratings, thereby showing the station that there are people interested in the show. Through that, they might end up airing more anime on TV. Your viewership is essentially a vote. When you watch fansubs because there aren’t shows enough shows on TV, you are telling the stations that you’re not interested in anime on TV. If you’re telling them that you don’t want anime on TV, WHY IN THE WORLD would they add new shows? See what I mean?

Fans seem to expect everybody to read their minds.

“I want more anime on TV, so why isn’t there any?”
Because you don’t WATCH the anime that is on TV.

“I want more free streaming videos on CrunchyRoll and YouTube.”
Then why are you watching Strike Witches FANSUBBED?

“Why aren’t anime DVDs as cheap as American DVDs?”
Because you’re not BUYING them!

It’s a painful, endless cycle that can only be fixed through education from the fans and active change from the companies.

]]> By: Anonymous http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-61203 Anonymous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:26:48 +0000 http://animeyume.com/blog/2008/08/08/fansubs-and-what-the-r1-industry-needs-to-do/#comment-61203 There's no such thing as free lunch. Really, the only solution to the problem isn't something the companies can do, but rather the fans: stop being such greedy, pirating bastards and buy more DVD's or stop watching so many shows. There’s no such thing as free lunch.

Really, the only solution to the problem isn’t something the companies can do, but rather the fans: stop being such greedy, pirating bastards and buy more DVD’s or stop watching so many shows.

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